Reported 2021-04-20 16:27:10
Indeed the more I think about this thread the more it breaks down as an argument. First of all, who thinks the main critique of substack right now is that they host eugenicists? People are mad about the anti-trans activists. "Etc" is doing a lot of work here.
Walter Olson @walterolson
Reported 2021-04-20 16:19:07
One problem I see with the Substack model is that it often takes writers I looked forward to reading and incentivizes them to turn out 4x the volume. Even when quality does not suffer (and it so often does), time is limited and who needs the unread subscription guilt?
Akhil Vohra @asv141
Reported 2021-04-20 16:12:03
Why would you pay for this on substack when you can read this here for free
Reported 2021-04-20 15:54:57
@keystone69420 @ggreenwald I mean. You can tear down anything. Substack requires ppl to want to pay to hear what the writer has to say. If they spew fake news, you just stop paying hem and they lose business. It’s what I and many other have done with msm. If all they do is lie, well ima go elsewhere
Reported 2021-04-20 15:29:02
i have a #substack where i talk about writing & pop culture (which is usually Black culture). here's the newest issue: https://t.co/ZkpKSzOq0x #newsletter #substacknewsletter #WritingCommnunity #blackwriters #blackcreative #writing
Reported 2021-04-20 15:22:55
@NairYasmin @NathanJRobinson Sure, and that’s what NR should have argued: FDB used to be a great writer, but now he’s so terrible that it actually reflects negatively on substack that they would „publish“ him. But instead NR brings up this, seems like he is evading the issue
David Dayen @ddayen
Reported 2021-04-20 14:33:11
"If you like your copy groomed and pristine, copy-edited professionally and fact-checked, and locked down by logic, some Substacks will give you fits"
Yeah who needs logic, I like my reading Four Loko'd out
🍀Pearl Jolly Anarcho-Assangist🍀#FreeAssange⏳ @PearlJolly
Reported 2021-04-20 14:22:27
@ggreenwald Benjamin Studebaker did this better. It’s just careerism. The problem with the substack guys is they think our systems and institutions are sal***able. So do the “woke” elites. Think harder. https://t.co/FmfubtKu03 https://t.co/tyw2jM8Vn4
Reported 2021-04-20 14:11:11
@FlorenceHRS Here's the summary:
"This is my major and I want attention, so I'm going to act like this is a tremendously important issue that racist Whites have squashed, because I have to justify my degree and my substack needs more subscribers."
Reported 2021-04-20 14:02:06
@juliaioffe @SubstackInc If the quality of content is a problem for you, you might want to stop using Twitter.
baufinanciaphaster 👹 @bauhiniacapital
Reported 2021-04-20 13:46:06
I’m waiting for the LeCordonBong substack detailing Ted L***o’s ‘biscuits’.
Don’t let me down Bong!
Jude Ellison S. Doyle @sadydoyle
Reported 2021-04-20 13:30:37
Hiring practices aren't the problem. Content is. The secretive nature of the Pro program is weird, as Annalee Newitz writes, because it allows them to maybe juice the numbers and avoid accountability. But folks like Glinner get big money from Substack without ever being hired.
NolaMom 🐊💐🐊💐🐊 @pedsscrub
Reported 2021-04-20 13:17:56
@ggreenwald My only problem with substack is the cost. The costs adds up,very quickly when you try to support more than one journalist.
Hank Kalet @newspoet41
Reported 2021-04-20 12:55:02
@HeerJeet I’m w/u, tho lack of decent-paying journo jobs & difficulty of freelancing make platforms like @SubstackInc, @Patreon & @Medium attractive. It’s why I’m on #Substack & the others. I have no issue w/editing, but gotta do what we have 2 do. https://t.co/aNWWeOt4OD
Colin Chaudhuri @cobra0483
Reported 2021-04-20 12:44:03
@protecttruth_ @joshtpm @HeerJeet And I’m a big fan of his substack for sure (his writing on zoning got me interested in the issue and now it’s becoming more mainstream which I think he deserves some credit for). But yeah his snarkiness is more a problem on Twitter.
Bread Economics @EconomicsBread
Reported 2021-04-20 12:21:24
@csilverandgold I think the issue was that Substack was pretending to be a web host that facilitated self-publication, but began putting money behind reactionaries — acting much like a traditional magazine while pretending to be something else.
Bread Economics @EconomicsBread
Reported 2021-04-20 12:20:53
@Prince_Kropotkn @Noahpinion @csilverandgold I think the issue was that Substack was pretending to be a web host that facilitated self-publication, but began putting money behind reactionaries — acting much like a traditional magazine while pretending to be something else.
Ayelet Waldman @ayeletw
Reported 2021-04-20 12:19:05
@HeerJeet I have absolutely no problem with Substack. I subscribe to people I agree with and to people I don't agree with. I learn a tremendous amount, and I have fun reading. People don't want to subscribe, they shouldn't subscribe.
Owen Ellickson @onlxn
Reported 2021-04-20 12:18:45
ultimately my main issue with Substack is it sounds like I’d end up getting an email
Tomer Stern @stern_tomer
Reported 2021-04-20 12:17:32
@HeerJeet Yea, substack reaches out to many writers to try to get them to join. Mechanically, the people most likely to make the move are people who have some sort of issue with their current job.
Rita Gunther McGrath @rgmcgrath
Reported 2021-04-20 12:03:57
Here's the dirty little secret of customer service. It's a metric called "containment" and it explains why it is so difficult to talk to a real human when you have a problem with a big company. More on this in a short think piece on Substack and LinkedIn.
Packy McCormick @packyM
Reported 2021-04-20 10:15:11
@mistersk021 @MylesUdland were around 50%, then substack had that issue a couple months ago that tanked them for a week, and they've been around 40% since
John Yedinak @jryedinak
Reported 2021-04-20 10:04:19
Agree and look outside @SubstackInc — don't limit yourself... we've tried every revenue stream there is and once you figure out what works for you.
Zach Smolinski @ZachSmolinski
Reported 2021-04-20 09:51:52
@andrewiyer @davidgerard Possibly... and it's possible in the future there will be a good discussion going about almost everything on Clubhouse.
But the problem is one of timing. Clubhouse has to have that right now, all the time. Substack needs someone to have written something, at some point.
andrew iyer @andrewiyer
Reported 2021-04-20 09:49:02
@ZachSmolinski @davidgerard well sure, for the saje of discussion I'll defend my stance - but i warn you, I've never used the thing.
the problem is that the lack of interesting topics doesn't matter. what matters is that *they could exist*. look at substack. you might well make the same arguments against it
Reported 2021-04-20 09:37:31
@AlexRasguidas @ggreenwald @SubstackInc Nah, I somewhat looked into it, the problem is you would have to install server infrastructure internationally. Although, if you wanted to pop up a datacenter in Mexico or Brazil, this would be awesome. They can still block your IP range though.
Joe Warminsky @jwarminsky
Reported 2021-04-20 09:27:46
People are clearly turning to my Substack and my podcast instead
Reported 2021-04-20 09:03:51
@shannon_last @ADLouisUSA Lol. First comment I read. “Glenn, calm the **** down” should just be the name of his substack https://t.co/1gJA2nA5az
Hilary White @hilarityjane
Reported 2021-04-20 08:53:11
My grandparents left the Old World and transplanted it into the Canadian wilderness in the 1920s. How do we rebuild the world? By committing to it.
My latest on World of Hilarity, my new Substack. https://t.co/TMZOauqABA
Damian Penny @damianjpenny
Reported 2021-04-20 08:23:06
Today on Substack: a viral story about Jan. 6 turns out to be untrue; the problem with memes about criminal justice; and Twitter actually being used for good, for once. https://t.co/FFZ2e5iV8d
💜🤍🖤 Fiori Loto (tiredly queer) 🏳️⚧️ @Loto_Fiori
Reported 2021-04-20 06:08:17
cl***ic substack user moment
Ignitor Marketing @Ignitor_Media
Reported 2021-04-20 05:25:55
How to Increase Your Presence on Twitter and Build a Lifelong Following - Have you wondered what you’ll do if the sites you write for were to ever go down? What would happen to, say, all of the Substack writers if. Read more via: https://t.co/Wji4TqQlxt https://t.co/WxIKDiAgh9
A Million Little Gods @AMLGpodcast
Reported 2021-04-20 00:49:02
Hey @SubstackInc, still no resolution on the podcast migration issue; your technical support is nearly impossible to get in contact with (seemingly by design), and now that I’ve finally found them, they write once a week to confirm, “Yes, there is a problem.” DO BETTER!
Steve Mushero @stevemushero
Reported 2021-04-19 23:21:30
@seanphughes99 @SubstackInc Really excellent post & very hard problem. Agreed increased friction a key step, mental help, too. While inner-city issues are hard, public focus & leverage is in m*** shootings, so how to leverage that for friction, loopholes, etc. Hard & hard truths abound :(
Swing Trade Assassin @SwingAssassin
Reported 2021-04-19 23:20:08
I might sound like a broken record but holy **** am I grateful for all the support from you all.
My Substack subscribers DOUBLED today and my most recent post on $INO has over 1,000 unique views thanks to people reading and sharing.
I am incredibly grateful. Thank you.
Victor Pickard @VWPickard
Reported 2021-04-19 22:01:30
@LukanTinca @SubstackInc I think most efforts to support local news are super important but I’m afraid this isn’t a systemic fix.
Nick Heer @nickheer
Reported 2021-04-19 19:09:23
I don’t have a problem with it — would be pretty hypocritical if I did — but most of the big Substack writers seem to treat it like longform Twitter.
Rose Eveleth ▷▷ @roseveleth
Reported 2021-04-19 19:05:09
One thing I think will be interesting to see is how independent Substack folks grapple with big tech PR folks who will throw their whole weight at a reporter to intimidate them. Having an editor & team stick up for you can be crucial. Will newsletter folks back down easier?
Reported 2021-04-19 18:57:55
@mtaibbi I've always thought that the incentive structure of news as a business is at the core of the problem. I'm curious as to your thoughts on the subject. (I know that's a major thrust in your writing these days. I was a substack sub until I went back to school full time. )
Guillermo Rojas Hernandez @guillermokrh
Reported 2021-04-19 18:54:25
@cwarzel lmao you literally left your job at the NYT to become a precarious worker at VC-funded Substack. tech people are trying to show you it's a labor issue and you're not listening
JUST NOBODY @adamtur43497010
Reported 2021-04-19 18:49:14
@ggreenwald its easier to deplatform you or shut down substack servers
Joshua Collins @InvisiblesMuros
Reported 2021-04-19 18:31:18
Related: i have zero problem w substack or the vast majority of the people who publish there. But it is a shame that the loudest (and most well-paid) voices on the platform are certifiable narcissistic nutjobs
A. Khaled 🌹 @Lyserberg
Reported 2021-04-19 18:26:41
The only major issue I'm having with Substack right now is it seems to somehow have never submitted my backlog (everything I had to import manually from Medium) to Google SEO, which is putting a hard cap on how many people can actually reach my writing.
Richard 'Name Pun' Clark @TheRichardClark
Reported 2021-04-19 16:34:22
In 2046, president will refuse to shut down his substack on taking office, insisting it's the only way he can speak directly to the people
Prasanna P Mainkar @prasanna_emkon
Reported 2021-04-19 16:19:09
Is there an issue with #substack right now? @SubstackInc Please guide https://t.co/i1x0E0uf2Y
Reported 2021-04-19 15:40:20
lol as if joining substack and leaving your nyt job doesn’t do that too
No one asked me..🌞 @bille3b
Reported 2021-04-19 15:14:07
@SethAbramson Naming greenwald and taibbi in your post turns me off of substack. That is the problem with getting eyes.
Promoting those that lost their insights to ideology goes beyond a simple bias that, let’s face it, appears in all essays.
Promote good writers, not privileged or has beens
Patrick Howell O'Neill @HowellONeill
Reported 2021-04-19 14:17:16
@benwolfson10 we are mere hours away from some American who does half baked policy takes on substack to do a soccer issue, are you ready
Stephen Gutowski @StephenGutowski
Reported 2021-04-19 14:14:01
Here are the pros & cons I've noticed thus far of building your own site vs using Substack.
Pro: Far greater flexibility at a much lower cost!
Con: The email service you built your site around could crash midnight before your launch & you'll have to stay up all night fixing it.
Chris “Shakespearean Doomguy” Pruitt @pruittca
Reported 2021-04-19 14:11:10
This kind of bull**** is exactly the problem with blogging/substack as “journalism.” Sullivan’s defense of racist generalizations is based on a claim that almost any on-the-ground educator who cares about their work would shoo you out the ****ing door for making. https://t.co/p9WOa6V3VW